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Ivy Bridge got pushed out to 1H 2012 probably a year from around now. AMD needing more steppings before an already late release is a bad sign, they are attempting to jump a generation of processors and surpass Sandy Bridge which just isn't going to happen, they should just release the B0 or B1 steppings but keep them cheaper than Sandy Bridge and worry about the price/performance ratio. It is apparent that clock per clock Bulldozer is inferior to Sandy bridge and all it is posed to be is a stop gap to Sandy Bridge until Ivy Bridge, so unless software starts utilizing eight cores within a year or AMD can prove the superiority of Cluster Multi-Threading over Hyper Threading, AMD has dug itself into a hole. Llano is impressive however and it destroys Atom and Tegra. In a year or two AMD might be completely absent from the desktop enthusiast market.