How you died on Nefarian

[ArchmageFurly in three days]

Here I'm just listing a few deaths that shouldn't happen, be they to friendly fire or pulling threat or magma deaths not caused by being blown off by cinders. I'm not doing this to call anyone out, but if you see something you can fix, please do it. There is no need to defend yourself for a mistake you made in here, I'm aware that there are wierd situations in the fight. I left out alot of deaths that happened after wipes because I know people(Including myself) spent their remaining time alive killing mind controls. I also didn't include deaths that were a result of a previous death. I added some colored comments. The deaths to like, aoe dmg or w/e, you need to jsut sue a cd, or healers need to be better so I said nothing.

Like I said, don't get defensive since your death may not have been your fault.

[18:40:16.074] Onyxia Shadowflame Breath Abec 38880 (R: 10800)
[18:40:16.532] Onyxia Shadowflame Breath Abec 38880 (R: 10800)
[18:40:18.363] Onyxia hits Abec 53200 (O: 7594, A: 1045) (more) Whar cds

18:47:55.759 Nexdominus [18:47:54.736] Animated Bone Warrior hits Nexdominus 22166
[18:47:55.096] Animated Bone Warrior hits Nexdominus 16561 (O: 1798)
[18:47:55.193] Animated Bone Warrior hits Nexdominus 16561 (O: 203) (more) Use CDS

18:40:22.956 Mìakasu [18:40:15.816] Myndor Arcane Explosion Mìakasu 3130
[18:40:16.631] Myndor Volcanic Destruction Mìakasu 2400 (more) ???

18:40:38.215 Under [18:40:35.109] Shisty Howling Blast Under *18817*
[18:40:37.694] Shisty Frost Fever Under 3069
[18:40:37.694] Shisty Blood Plague Under 1089 (more) sigh

18:48:10.603 Myndor [18:48:08.275] Onyxia Lightning Discharge Myndor 33293
[18:48:09.133] Onyxia Lightning Discharge Myndor 21357 (R: 9737)
[18:48:10.320] Onyxia Lightning Discharge Myndor 18316 (O: 5478, R: 6328) (more) dont stand there

This is my favorite, when sovie backed into the lava:18:55:31.437 Qqpanda [18:55:30.738] Onyxia hits Qqpanda 29656
[18:55:30.777] Qqpanda Magma Qqpanda 11592
[18:55:31.075] Qqpanda takes 184 Lava damage (R: 50) (more)

[19:11:33.195] Shisty Magma Shisty 7700 (R: 3300)
[19:11:33.476] Shisty takes 305 Lava damage (R: 131)
[19:11:33.622] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Shisty 9731 (O: 15908, R: 10988) (more)

[19:13:58.383] Nefarian hits Qqpanda 53303 (A: 12653)
[19:13:59.082] Nefarian's Lightning Machine Electrocute Qqpanda 90826 (R: 26256)
[19:14:00.218] Nefarian hits Qqpanda 34523 (O: 2163, A: 4072) (more) cds

[19:14:27.371] Shisty Frost Fever Zsigmond 4024
[19:14:30.351] Shisty Blood Plague Zsigmond 3100
[19:14:30.351] Shisty Frost Fever Zsigmond 6661 (more) you had to have had stacks

19:26:28.901 Abec [19:26:28.217] Animated Bone Warrior hits Abec 13312 (B: 5981)
[19:26:28.217] Animated Bone Warrior hits Abec 11835 (B: 19310)
[19:26:28.353] Animated Bone Warrior hits Abec 11958 (B: 19512) (more) stop being bad

19:34:10.154 Myndor [19:34:09.869] Myndor Magma Myndor 11186 (R: 5100)
[19:34:09.936] Myndor takes 143 Lava damage (R: 17)
[19:34:09.988] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Myndor 25503 (O: 3151, R: 7621) (more)

19:43:11.756 Pandoruum [19:43:03.516] Nefarian's Lightning Machine Electrocute Pandoruum 54215 (A: 18624, R: 26014)
[19:43:11.249] Nefarian Shadowflame Breath Pandoruum 30240 (A: 7560, R: 16200)
[19:43:11.756] Nefarian Shadowflame Breath Pandoruum 30670 (O: 8210, A: 9720, R: 5400) (more)
Dragons breath fire


19:43:37.825 Savelli [19:43:37.588] Savelli takes 179 Lava damage (R: 120)
[19:43:37.619] Savelli Magma Savelli 24800 (R: 6200)
[19:43:37.619] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Savelli 28135 (O: 4046, R: 8045) (more)

19:52:42.721 Crucible [19:52:24.421] Onyxia Tail Lash Crucible 11647 (A: 14665)
[19:52:42.451] Nefarian's Lightning Machine Electrocute Crucible 117536 (R: 13060)
[19:52:42.451] Onyxia Tail Lash Crucible 18687 (O: 10785) (more) human racial, stop clicking

20:00:15.297 Shisty [20:00:13.676] Pandoruum Burning Embers Shisty 873
[20:00:14.863] Pandoruum Burning Embers Shisty 873
[20:00:15.014] Onyxia Tail Lash Shisty 35302 (O: 5137) (more)

20:00:59.043 Crucible [20:00:55.932] Onyxia Tail Lash Crucible 27772
[20:00:58.799] Nefarian's Lightning Machine Electrocute Crucible 108451 (O: 21754) (more) again

20:00:59.054 Vienne [20:00:55.932] Onyxia Tail Lash Vienne 47586
[20:00:58.799] Nefarian's Lightning Machine Electrocute Vienne 87627 (O: 16159) (more) What can a druid to to survive this?

20:01:23.107 Myndor [20:01:21.658] Ebon Imp hits Myndor 789
[20:01:22.412] Pandoruum Shadowflame Myndor 3298
[20:01:22.871] Regolith Arcane Blast Myndor *105946* (O: 48848, R: 20035) (more) (High Five Rego)

20:06:49.444 Dautz [20:06:47.170] Regolith Cone of Cold Dautz *4553* (R: 665)
[20:06:48.884] Talith Holy Wrath Dautz 2057 (more)

20:08:06.125 Nastay [20:07:58.224] Benjaminy Flame Orb Nastay 1083 (A: 271, R: 580)
[20:07:59.403] Benjaminy Flame Orb Nastay 1521 (A: 380) (more) lulz

20:20:38.339 Leapoffail [20:20:36.056] Shisty Howling Blast Leapoffail 20934 (R: 6283)
[20:20:36.738] Pandoruum Shadowflame Leapoffail *24053*
[20:20:38.339] Pandoruum Shadowflame Leapoffail *11483* (O: 10164, R: 1405) (more) [color=#BF0000]shadowflame with stacks is a nono

20:21:04.020 Vienne [20:21:00.932] Nefarian's Lightning Machine Electrocute Vienne 128807
[20:21:03.736] Onyxia Tail Lash Vienne 40457 (O: 10337) (more) see above

20:21:04.020 Myndor [20:21:00.932] Nefarian's Lightning Machine Electrocute Myndor 98610 (R: 26226)
[20:21:03.611] Shisty Frost Fever Myndor 2099
[20:21:03.736] Onyxia Tail Lash Myndor 24555 (O: 26559) (more) owned

20:22:44.780 Myndor [20:22:43.938] Myndor takes 453 Lava damage (R: 120)
[20:22:44.429] Myndor takes 108 Lava damage (R: 28)
[20:22:44.453] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Myndor 25497 (O: 4975, R: 8104) (more) owned again

20:22:47.164 Bläckup [20:22:44.161] Bläckup Magma Bläckup 16100 (R: 6900)
[20:22:44.453] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Bläckup 39331 (R: 4370)
[20:22:47.057] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Bläckup 20461 (O: 11084, R: 7886) (more)

20:22:47.980 Onï [20:22:47.164] Onï takes 422 Lava damage (R: 181)
[20:22:47.695] Onï takes 115 Lava damage (R: 49)
[20:22:47.829] Onï Magma Onï 7807 (O: 7493, R: 1700) (more)

20:22:52.391 Talith [20:22:51.970] Talith takes 421 Lava damage (R: 181)
[20:22:52.288] Talith takes 81 Lava damage (R: 20)
[20:22:52.391] Talith Magma Talith 12179 (O: 6154, R: 4583) (more)

20:22:53.593 Crucible [20:22:52.391] Crucible Magma Crucible 16000 (R: 5000)
[20:22:53.256] Crucible takes 268 Lava damage (R: 115)
[20:22:53.390] Crucible Magma Crucible 12721 (O: 6719, R: 2700) (more)

20:51:09.655 Zsigmond [20:51:06.156] Nefarian Shadow of Cowardice Zsigmond 30000
[20:51:07.838] Nefarian Shadow of Cowardice Zsigmond 48600 (R: 3000)
[20:51:09.655] Nefarian Shadow of Cowardice Zsigmond 31071 (O: 64929) (more) [color=#BF0000]click no if not ready

20:51:46.592 Dautz [20:51:45.521] Nefarian Shadowflame Breath Dautz 40484 (R: 5400)
[20:51:46.093] Nefarian Shadowflame Breath Dautz 40484 (R: 5400)
[20:51:46.587] Nefarian Shadowflame Breath Dautz 25470 (O: 10516, R: 10800) (more) Dragon, Fire, Hot

20:51:51.397 Under [20:51:48.327] Myndor Arcane Blast Under *36172* (R: 4401)
[20:51:49.555] Myndor Arcane Blast Under 21928 (R: 2436)
[20:51:51.131] Myndor Arcane Blast Under 13063 (O: 9754, R: 2535) (more) ...

21:05:09.778 Savelli [21:05:09.148] Savelli Magma Savelli 16800 (R: 4200)
[21:05:09.548] Savelli takes 340 Lava damage (R: 85)
[21:05:09.575] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Savelli 29036 (O: 2174, R: 7803) (more)

21:05:17.016 Snowzz [21:05:12.029] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Snowzz 29581 (R: 7395)
[21:05:14.411] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Snowzz 32994 (R: 8248)
[21:05:16.845] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Snowzz 14855 (O: 15319, R: 7544) (more)

21:09:16.193 Onï [21:09:12.345] Onï takes 22018 Fall damage
[21:09:13.863] Onyxia hits Onï 92071
[21:09:15.649] Onyxia hits Onï 25289 (O: 18647, A: 30302) (more) Watch Threat

21:16:08.621 Nexdominus [21:16:05.747] Nefarian Shadowflame Breath Nexdominus 37359 (R: 10800)
[21:16:06.136] Nefarian Shadowflame Breath Nexdominus 42029 (R: 5400)
[21:16:07.997] Nefarian hits Nexdominus 39439 (O: 22464) (more) cds

21:16:31.520 Savelli [21:16:29.224] Mìakasu Explosive Cinders Savelli 14106 (R: 32915)
[21:16:29.224] Savelli Magma Savelli 14700 (R: 6300)
[21:16:31.328] Nefarian Shadowflame Barrage Savelli 24218 (O: 13520, R: 4193) (more)

[myndor]

if u are going to go an post shit like this u should look at all the ones that ae 10 seconds before fight end.... u are smarter than this

[Bläckup]

(insert insulting, defensive retaliation to thread here).


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[qqpanda]

in my defense i had no idea i could do that

[xnskzzxnvs]

i think you guys were missing some nature resist on wednesday or something, since wednesday took far more elecrocute damage than sunday. speaking as a healer that hasn't healed ony tank, the issue there is that when a tail whip and an electrocute happens at around the same time, everyone in that area is fucked. you can't just say "well human trinket this and cd that", trinketing out of the stun doesn't instantly give you back 40k hp (you need 1 crit or 2 noncrits for that), and you need to cd the electrocute just to survive when you're already at full health. still, there are some things that we can do better over there on electrocute (when we are not fucked):
1. ensure that there is a nature resist over there
2. ensure that a dpriest bubbles the healers over there when the boss is being turned or when electrocute is about to occur

as far as non-electrocute-related tank gibs go, (and speaking only as the guy that heals nef tank), when your healers are able to heal consistently, the dragon tanks can just sit there doing almost nothing and can't possibly die (i think p1 nef tank is solo healable but it would be mana draining). but if they are unable to heal and a breath happens, then the tank is fucked unless he uses a cd of some kind.

[Archlight]

if u are going to go an post shit like this u should look at all the ones that ae 10 seconds before fight end.... u are smarter than this

every death is relevant.
- an interupting dps dies, potentially causes a wipe on his platform because of blastwave not being interupted
- tank dying = a battlerez and playing catch up on his health pool being restored, now lacking buffs, straying attention away from healing the raid
- healer dying - other healers having to pick up slack and maybe losing focus on the truly important target they need to be healing


im not sure why you think only the last 10 seconds is relevant
it's a domino effect

[qqpanda]

if u are going to go an post shit like this u should look at all the ones that ae 10 seconds before fight end.... u are smarter than this

every death is relevant.
- an interupting dps dies, potentially causes a wipe on his platform because of blastwave not being interupted
- tank dying = a battlerez and playing catch up on his health pool being restored, now lacking buffs, straying attention away from healing the raid
- healer dying - other healers having to pick up slack and maybe losing focus on the truly important target they need to be healing


im not sure why you think only the last 10 seconds is relevant
it's a domino effect

he meant people killing them selves on called wipes.

[Firecrest]

im not sure why you think only the last 10 seconds is relevant
it's a domino effect

I'm pretty sure that he meant to put a "not" in there. As in, "you should 'not' look at". Gogo Mynglish.

the issue there is that when a tail whip and an electrocute happens at around the same time, everyone in that area is fucked. you can't just say "well human trinket this and cd that", trinketing out of the stun doesn't instantly give you back 40k hp

Agree. Furly, saying stuff like "human racial, stop clicking" is irratating and completely unhelpful. Look at the timestamps on that death. Less than half a second elapses between Tail Swipe and Crackle. What the fuck good is Human Racial going to do me? Even if I have the most godly reflexes ever, I won't be able to a damn thing.

In these cases, my death has nothing to do with the stun (let's be honest, Human Racial is never going to be particularly helpful given that the stun duration is so short). Even if Tailswipe had NO stun, I still probably would have died in these instances. The problem is that I take about 4/5 of my healthbar from Crackle and about 1/3 from a Tailswipe. In the first of those two deaths, I was under the effect of my Shield Wall and STILL died. I honestly don't recall if I had damage reduction up on the other (just based on the fact that Tailwhip owned my ass and Crackle didn't, I assume I was under trinket for that one - but I may be wrong).

I've said it before. When Tail Swipe and Crackle come that close together we will die if left on our own. The nature resist doesn't reach that far and if we don't have bubbles, we're fucked.

Beyond that, why would you feel the need to insult me in all this? Like I'm some newb clicker or somthing. EMFH is ring finger forward. I don't click a single in combat ability. So I don't know why you would feel the need to be an ass about it.


Edit:
That large group of Paltaform 2 people you have listed that all died to fire damage did so because we got blown off our platform. A few people made it back and we managed to get the interrupt and prevent a full on wipe. However, half the plataform didn't make it through no fault of their own.

[abecx]

I dont think he's insulting you directly, he said not to take offense.

And I died because healers got stuned and were healing people who we low on health because they maxed out their mind control before a crackle which they mentioned. I probably should have used last stand because I was aware of the situation at that time too at least to what the healers were doing decision wise.

Thats a good sign though, that I'm succinct with alyse so well i know how he's going to heal other players before he does it.

[Firecrest]

I dont think he's insulting you directly, he said not to take offense.

I can see someone not understanding the mechanics of why racial is not particularly useful. From an outsider's standpoint, it's easy not to fully understand that there's jack shit I can do when I take 150k damage inside of half a second. I don't mind explaining it and debating this point.

However, I don't see any possible explanation for him calling me a clicker other than to be an asshat about it.

Thats a good sign though, that I'm succinct with alyse so well i know how he's going to heal other players before he does it.

I was actually trying to Holy Shock them to death. But, sure, let's go with healing. That sounds better. 8-)