Ulduar Undying / Immortal Not linked to meta.

[mascaron]

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/1567125 ... ement.html

Undying and Immortal for Ulduar are not linked to the meta.

Good imo. Also, the only realm first achievements will be:
Yogg-Saron 10 man Hard Mode (zero Keepers helping)
Algalon 10 man

Yogg-Saron 25 man Hard Mode (zero Keepers helping)
Algalon 25 man

I know we cant get everyone to log on asap for 25 man more than likely.. but.. could we get 10 ppl to log on to do 10 man right when the servers come up after patch? No idea how long it might take.. but the sooner we would get in there the better. Plus it would give insight as to exactly what to do in 25 man

[Firecrest]

My assumption (hope) is that this first kill for Algalon will not be so easy that you will need to worry about getting it right as the servers come up. That boss in particular has been hailed as a completely optional encounter designed specifically for the people who want Sunwell difficulty back. The way Blizzard employees talk about him, you'd figure him for the next Muru.

Some of the top guilds in the world might get it in the first week, but I'm hoping the difficulty is such that it remains undone on our realm until after at least a couple weeks of Uldar gearing.

Yogg-Saron hard mode (which would probably be pretty much the same as clearing Uldar and then doing the last boss on hard mode) will probably go down much quicker. I guess it just depends on how hard Yogg-Saron hard mode is and how hard Uldar is in general.

I'd be down for getting an early start on this on patch day, but if anyone ends up with these titles in the first week, I will be severely disapointed.


Edit:
I just read that in order to get "zero keepers helping" on Yogg-Saron, you have to do the hard modes of all the other Uldar bosses. If that's the case (could be false), it could be a good long while beofre that one happens as well.

Edit2:
Apparently Algalon requires you to beat four bosses on hard mode just to access.

Siffed (Force Thorim to enter the arena and defeat him while Sif is present on Normal Difficulty.)
Getting Back to Nature (Defeat Freya while she is affected by Attuned to Nature on Normal Difficulty.)
I Have the Coolest Friends (Defeat Hodir without any friendly NPC dying on Normal Difficulty.)
Set Up Us the Bomb (Complete the following Mimiron achievements on Normal Difficulty.)

Who knows. All this could just be rampant specualtion. I guess we'll see when it comes out. Here's to hoping hard mode is actually hard.

[Faldelore]

Set Up Us the Bomb (Complete the following Mimiron achievements on Normal Difficulty.)

lawl.

[mascaron]

Some of the top guilds in the world might get it in the first week, but I'm hoping the difficulty is such that it remains undone on our realm until after at least a couple weeks of Uldar gearing.

I'd be down for getting an early start on this on patch day, but if anyone ends up with these titles in the first week, I will be severely disapointed.

I don't see any reason why we shouldn't group ourselves in with "world top guilds" at this point. There is no excuse of "I hate leveling" or "immortal is the stupidest achievement" . No leveling, we have the gear, and undying / immortal aren't in the meta. If we don't complete at least the 10 man achievements shortly after (within a few days) the first guilds I will be severely disappointed.

[CAN]

immortal part two also will probably require you to do easy modes of bosses thus skipping hard modes probably for a luck achievement