Why we failed at Hodir hard mode by 2 seconds.

[Frostitude]

MW's ele shaman does 13k

[skilz]

even I used flasks....

[sophronius]

Hellbite uses flasks and pots and get hard mode Hodir, sup

[geng]

sorry anything that happens in <boss> doesnt count.

[Zoia]

Kipp is win

[Lorake]

MW's ele shaman does 13k

He also got hit by 4 clouds, where as Frost pulled more damage with only 3 clouds. Just compare his buff up time from their recent kill to Frost's from our first week kill. If Frost hit 4 clouds in the ideal situation, he could probably even be 15-16k np

Some of the other attempts his dps/cloud were

9k on 3 clouds
8k on 1 cloud
5k on 0 clouds
7.5k on 2 clouds
11.5k on 4 clouds
5.5k on 0 clouds.

This of course doesn't factor the haste buff, which isn't shown in WoLogs. That being said there is also a lot of luck involved, because if you can get a crit buff in a moonbeam by a fire, then your dps is np. Raw, untainted dps on a burn boss, elemental shamans won't compare. Can you really argue that?

[Frostitude]

Kipp is win

Zoia call back mini he's buying you a computer.

[Sharfalma]

Shadow Priests are one tough cookie!

[Burlock]

potion master with all potion recipes..

I used potions during heroisms every time we got to heroism, unless I felt that I had to spend more time breaking out adds than DPSing the boss. I think my potion would increase my DPS more effectively on the boss without heroism than on adds with heroism.

I always have enough potions and I'm not jewish about them, I just use them when I think it will increase my performance and effective DPS the most.

[Lorake]

potion master with all potion recipes..

I used potions during heroisms every time we got to heroism, unless I felt that I had to spend more time breaking out adds than DPSing the boss. I think my potion would increase my DPS more effectively on the boss without heroism than on adds with heroism.

I always have enough potions and I'm not jewish about them, I just use them when I think it will increase my performance and effective DPS the most.

and absolutely nothing wrong with that. It even means you're showing that you're thinking about using your pots at an ideal time instead of just popping it for the sake of popping. It's the people who aren't popping it at all that I want to criticize and force to bring pots. Raiding will be a lot more fun if people don't have to worry what other people are doing in a fight.