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Rogue weapon swap addon - Keiku - 11-11-2009

Rogue
Weapon Swapping

Let me put it this way....

Fine: A rogue changes targets so needs to swap weapons to get a different poison on that target. This is more of a strategic thing -- something you only do a few times per fight.

Not fine: A rogue swaps weapons constantly on the same target in order to get lots of poisons on that target. This is more of a hassle, not an interesting decision the player is making. This is more in line with a caster switching weapons to maximize a proc and then swapping back. It's not fun and it feels like you have to do this annoying and unintuitive (unless you read the forums a lot) trick to maximize your dps.

Now like someone said above, you could make a weapon swapping mod for say Feral druids and few people would feel the need to use it. It's not the existence of a mod that's a problem. Mods do lots of crazy things. It's a problem if it feels mandatory to raiding rogues. That however is a very subjective call and one that's ultimately up to us to make. We're keeping an eye on it. (Source)

The solution is very easy (conceptually) - when Deadly Poison procs and a 5-stack is on the target, cause your other hand's poison to proc. This effectively replicates the effect of weapon swapping, works for all specs, and slightly buffs rogue PVE DPS beyond where it's at right now - something which rogues are in dire need of, looking at the parses coming out of 3.3 so far. Additionally, it ensures that raiding rogues will use Deadly Poison, as Blizzard has worked so hard to make it attractive to us.

We've heard that suggestion a few times and it might be something we explore. We'd certainly rather make swapping not necessary rather than just be mean and prevent it.

Some of you are posting that rogues will use anything that maximizes their dps and this maximizes their dps. That's not really the point.

Our original comment on swapping was that it appeared to provide a marginal dps increase and we knew that some rogues who tried it weren't happy with how it worked because the risk was high of screwing something up. So while it theoretically maximized dps, it was risky enough and the gain low enough that we weren't sure it would become mainstream.

Now things are trending that the dps increase is significant and Adrine's mod is written so well that it takes a lot of the risk away, even in PvP. That weights things more towards doing something about it, though judging from Adrine's posts, I don't think he'll mind. Smiley (Source)

Rogues aren't getting nerfed
Agreed. We're not interested in nerfing rogues here, just making an annoying mechanic less attractive. (Source)

TAKE THAT GHOST


Re: Rogue weapon swap addon - Firecrest - 11-11-2009

Man. I knew you were a gay and all, but do you really have to post in rainbow too?


Re: Rogue weapon swap addon - Searia - 11-11-2009

seriously


Re: Rogue weapon swap addon - Keiku - 11-11-2009

What the fuck are you talking about, also Searia go whore more trophies that you don't have badges for k thanks.


Re: Rogue weapon swap addon - Bbriguyy - 11-11-2009

Keiku Wrote:What the fuck are you talking about, also Searia go whore more trophies that you don't have badges for k thanks.
GET BURNT FGT


Re: Rogue weapon swap addon - Archlight - 11-11-2009

your posts are comparable to mini's
gz


Re: Rogue weapon swap addon - Hitshade - 11-11-2009

Archlight Wrote:your posts are comparable to mini's
gz

But not nearly as powerful!


Re: Rogue weapon swap addon - mininolan - 11-11-2009

Archlight Wrote:your posts are comparable to mini's
gz



YOU WANNA FIGHT BITCH???