11-06-2009, 02:04 PM
Firecrest Wrote:I would love to enforce it. But the reality is that keeping track of 25+ people's gear is not practical. Not to mention knowing what's an upgrade for every class and every spec in the game. That's just not something one person can handle. I can watch it to some degree, but it's always after the fact. There's no realistic way for me to know if someone is passing on an upgrade as it's being rolled.
Kipp's idea caters to people who have specifically put their epeen above the good of the guild and I just believe these people need to be punished or removed - not pampered.
Why are we worried about the melee trinket in particular anyhow? Is it because that's where all our DKP whores are? You certainly don't see Jack starting up a thread on what to do about DKP whoring among the healers. If we know who the problem is to such an extent that we can predict the thing they will be whoring for before it even exists, this would be a great time to get rid of them.
.. you don't have to keep track of 25+ people. It's "not practical" for all 25+ to dkp whore. Why? Because there is no point in dkp whoring if you're not going to get the item you're whoring dkp for. All you have to do is look at the top 1-2 melee, ranged, and healers. 3-6 people. And actually, yes, I certainly have seen Jack bitch about DKP whoring among healers. Don't know if you were even in this guild at the time seeing as you apparently don't know about it, but back when Avanne desperately wanted the memento, he didn't get any upgrades but just waited for it to drop. His case was ridiculous as the trinket didn't drop for a long time and it became VERY obvious what he was doing.
Kipp's idea caters to people who would make the best use of it. Trinkets are one step below legendaries imo.. just like we wanted to keep all the mementos and skulls in the guild for the most deserving, should do the same thing now.. generally this works out great through dkp. Sometimes it doesn't. Hell I don't even know who Ghost is, but since I've come back, he's been there every single time, and almost always on top. I don't think I've seen him fuck up more than once or twice even. That's why I mentioned him earlier.
Unless of course you want to give the trinket to Lawler. If Gemg got one item before the trinket dropped or didn't happen to be there when the trinket dropped, and Lawler was... it would go to Lawler. I think Lawler is a great guy, but he's so consistently removed from raid or not invited for w/e reason it would be a complete waste atm for Lawler to get the trinket, yet he has the dkp.