07-26-2010, 02:32 PM
I was actually thinking about this over the weekend. I am going to attempt to start keeping track of wipes and the first ~4 deaths. My goal at the end of the night will be to post a list that looks something like this:
Attempt 1
Wipe due to: Bad defile planted by Abec
Death 1: Fordelf (Plague Cleanse Slow)
Death 2: Lightnen (Spirit Shockwave)
Death 3: Jackslammer (Infest)
Death 4: Darktwig (Infest)
Death 5: Myndore (Infest)
This should allow us to better analyze what's going wrong and who's causing it. With the above example, we would be able to not only see the major wipe causing fail of the fucked up defile - but also that Infest healing was failing, I fucked up a cleanse and Lightnen needs to watch his positioning and not get in front of adds (Note: These are just examples pulled out my ass).
I'm not gonna lie... This fight is begining to get to me. I don't think we've ever been stuck for so long on one boss with so little progression. Maybe my memories of Muru are rose colored, but it seems like even then, each week was a little better than the last. Abe will probably disagree, but I don't feel that we have made any progress at all on this fight in months. If anything, we've slid backwards. I remember a couple months ago when we had a night where nearly every single attempt got us into P2. Now half our wipes or more are in P1.
On top of that, we still have a long long ways to go. Again, Abe will disagree, but I don't feel that we've even gotten to the hard part yet. Phase Three and Frostmourn room are going to be hell. One person dies in that place and it's a wipe. We have a shit ton of people who can't just get to the marked person and stack on them for valks - what makes us think they're going to be able to follow a marked person around the room? Or, god forbid, find an acceptable path on their own?
I would not contest the suggestion that we might just need to take a break from this boss for awhile. Maybe focus on RS HM. That fight is supposed to be a good deal easier than HM LK and drops upgrades for everyone. I dunno. Just a thought.
Attempt 1
Wipe due to: Bad defile planted by Abec
Death 1: Fordelf (Plague Cleanse Slow)
Death 2: Lightnen (Spirit Shockwave)
Death 3: Jackslammer (Infest)
Death 4: Darktwig (Infest)
Death 5: Myndore (Infest)
This should allow us to better analyze what's going wrong and who's causing it. With the above example, we would be able to not only see the major wipe causing fail of the fucked up defile - but also that Infest healing was failing, I fucked up a cleanse and Lightnen needs to watch his positioning and not get in front of adds (Note: These are just examples pulled out my ass).
I'm not gonna lie... This fight is begining to get to me. I don't think we've ever been stuck for so long on one boss with so little progression. Maybe my memories of Muru are rose colored, but it seems like even then, each week was a little better than the last. Abe will probably disagree, but I don't feel that we have made any progress at all on this fight in months. If anything, we've slid backwards. I remember a couple months ago when we had a night where nearly every single attempt got us into P2. Now half our wipes or more are in P1.
On top of that, we still have a long long ways to go. Again, Abe will disagree, but I don't feel that we've even gotten to the hard part yet. Phase Three and Frostmourn room are going to be hell. One person dies in that place and it's a wipe. We have a shit ton of people who can't just get to the marked person and stack on them for valks - what makes us think they're going to be able to follow a marked person around the room? Or, god forbid, find an acceptable path on their own?
I would not contest the suggestion that we might just need to take a break from this boss for awhile. Maybe focus on RS HM. That fight is supposed to be a good deal easier than HM LK and drops upgrades for everyone. I dunno. Just a thought.