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[Sanderz]

This is an absurd claim. I can recall this occurring maybe a couple times ever and it wouldn't last long. Do you have any examples Sanderz? Bad players that were invited over good players when and in what content?

While I haven't played in 6 months and anything that happened before me quitting is getting foggier as the year goes by, I can still say that people in the KKK channel get left out of raids by citing attendance is the main reason of leaving them out, but mostly its from attitude problems like mini and tdl (even though it sounds like they do get some raid time, idk).

WLPH has had a ton of shitty holy priests that die instantly on nearly every boss attempt and they were given way too much time to try to fix it. Choco did better than most but he usually wanted to play other shit. There was one or two that were decent but I can't remember their names.

How about the lawler vs krynnyth shit? Lawler afking aside, that bitch should have been cut months ago.

How about the mage shit I had to put up with in BC? Rotating mages in sunwell to make everyone happy? Maymays didn't have the perception required for raiding. And Nairwind or whatever that bitches name was didn't belong either. Oh I would've kicked them, but I wasn't allowed to do it. It seems you still have shitty mages around (other the drunk mexican and the russian) but I don't really care enough to check raid logs.

Theres obviously more, but the women stick out the most because they usually suck (in more ways than one).

As to what lawler said about class limited selections, recruiting and alts fix that problem of bads being in crucial spots. Of course the immaturity of the website deters serious recruits, but that can be changed (but won't). Alts work but you have to have enough raiders to move around people. You shouldn't have to be stuck with bad players when you have good players that can change to their alts. It comes down to having extra people available at the beginning of raids, and I do realize its hard to get people to sit and stick around. Incentives such as wl dkp equivalent to raid dkp would probably work.

Players who just bitch about shit and don't actually act, those who talk the walk but never actually walk it, I encourage to either lead by example or assist officers and CLs do their job. If anybody has a problem with the players on the current roster then I welcome them to recruit better players, ask the current raiders to step out, swap the players around, analyze their logs and performance, etc., otherwise any bitching is just noise and detrimental.

I recall furly getting bitched out for giving advice, so whats the point of trying to argue shit with officers? During progression once the bosses mechanics were figured out, it felt like go with the flow or gtfo. I tried helping during raiding, but theres only so much you can do to fix bads and I was mostly ignored anyways because people think I'm a full-time troll (raiding that long made me jaded and I've changed my outlook on wow since I've quit).

I really don't care that much about this shit. Its in all the past. I do think its interesting in watching wlph making the same personnel mistakes, but you'll defend it with "we don't have many options and we raid with what we have". If you still haven't figured out how to get a feeder guild yet, you should at least try to get more people from pugs to raid. Plare started raiding with you guys after I left, but he was in the pugs for months. Theres other good people who aren't alts that will raid.

After further thought, I guess my main point should be to stop telling people that they might end up in the pug raids and actually give them a chance in your main raids. Don't tell them they might end up in the pugs because that doubt will lead them to not transferring, and you wouldn't be able to try them out then. You have bads you can sit while you try them out, and if they bitch about being sat, fuck them they're bads. And bads with officer friends shouldn't be treated any differently.

BUT WHATEVER. E-DRAMA IS OVERRATED. ALSO LOL RAIDING.