Cata...

[jackslammer]

While I haven't played in 6 months and anything that happened before me quitting is getting foggier as the year goes by, I can still say that people in the KKK channel get left out of raids by citing attendance is the main reason of leaving them out, but mostly its from attitude problems like mini and tdl (even though it sounds like they do get some raid time, idk).

Mini has raided with us for like a month total ever, TDL has never raided with us, Cahn, Voke, and Ghost only don't raid because they don't want to, I can't recall once when we intentionally didn't invite them except Voke during Immortal, ahahaha.

WLPH has had a ton of shitty holy priests that die instantly on nearly every boss attempt and they were given way too much time to try to fix it. Choco did better than most but he usually wanted to play other shit. There was one or two that were decent but I can't remember their names.

Thorran always wanted to raid on his hunter, and the priests in question were Annamarie and Avanne and I remember constantly recruiting priests and having the highest turnover ever on that class during Felmyst, but WTF do you expect? Again nobody was overlooked this was strictly an availability issue.

How about the lawler vs krynnyth shit? Lawler afking aside, that bitch should have been cut months ago.

Again an availability issue, Lawler is never ever around and when he is he AFKs every other pull, and Krynnyth being a girl is far from epoon, she never uses her gender to her advantage, just as a disadvantage like when it comes to navigation around Icecrown.

How about the mage shit I had to put up with in BC? Rotating mages in sunwell to make everyone happy? Maymays didn't have the perception required for raiding. And Nairwind or whatever that bitches name was didn't belong either. Oh I would've kicked them, but I wasn't allowed to do it. It seems you still have shitty mages around (other the drunk mexican and the russian) but I don't really care enough to check raid logs.

I recall you being mage CL then, you couldn't have found a polite way to tell those mages off and justify it, maybe you did attempt to remove them and you did justify it but it was just never acknowledged, I don't remember it that well either. Regolith is the most consistent mage we've ever had, he may not spike to top of meters like Furly and Myndor but he is consistently right there with them and we never have to worry about him leaving for futbol or tequila.

Theres obviously more, but the women stick out the most because they usually suck (in more ways than one).

Ya other than maybe Nairwind you haven't mentioned one person that we intentionally replaced with a worse-performing player for any reason other than availability.

As to what lawler said about class limited selections, recruiting and alts fix that problem of bads being in crucial spots. Of course the immaturity of the website deters serious recruits, but that can be changed (but won't). Alts work but you have to have enough raiders to move around people. You shouldn't have to be stuck with bad players when you have good players that can change to their alts. It comes down to having extra people available at the beginning of raids, and I do realize its hard to get people to sit and stick around. Incentives such as wl dkp equivalent to raid dkp would probably work.

I really don't care that much about this shit. Its in all the past. I do think its interesting in watching wlph making the same personnel mistakes, but you'll defend it with "we don't have many options and we raid with what we have". If you still haven't figured out how to get a feeder guild yet, you should at least try to get more people from pugs to raid. Plare started raiding with you guys after I left, but he was in the pugs for months. Theres other good people who aren't alts that will raid.

After further thought, I guess my main point should be to stop telling people that they might end up in the pug raids and actually give them a chance in your main raids. Don't tell them they might end up in the pugs because that doubt will lead them to not transferring, and you wouldn't be able to try them out then. You have bads you can sit while you try them out, and if they bitch about being sat, fuck them they're bads. And bads with officer friends shouldn't be treated any differently.

I completely agree with you here and I believe a lot of this lies in the hands of CLs and officers to keep in touch with players around the guild, server, other realms, etc. to establish a good relationship and reel them in when they are needed while helping them gear, gem, theory-craft, etc. to gain experience elsewhere until we need them. Now the work of assigning the responsibility of CL/officer to the best player, most dedicated, online most, best geared, longest in guild, etc. can be difficult but can also be the most rewarding thing for a guild.

I also believe CLs or officers approaching a player and attempting to fix the "bad" and letting them become aware as to why they need to be replaced, would either encourage them to perform better and resolve the issue or allow them to leave without humiliation or guilt from the person replacing them. Just replacing somebody and removing them from guild is detrimental, they'll be invited back and they'll ask random officers why they were kicked and they'll be invited back to raids because assists won't know why; and most likely the player won't even know and end up posting on our 4umz about epoon getting officer priority for sucking. Like I said earlier if somebody is "bad" approach them and ask them to fix it, if they don't then recruit somebody and kindly replace them, and they'll probably go to a PUG and enjoy a one day raid week with less pressure instead.

And some things in WLPH won't ever change, like our website, our guild ranks and lack of structure, Abe's bullheaded approach to raiding, the +1 charisma epoon get and this isn't e-drama since right now is a good time to look back on WotLK and find areas we can improve upon for Cataclysm. I think having a fresh start in which trials, PUGs, raiders, officers, etc. are all on a level playing field will help a ton if we can keep this so called favoritism to a minimum.