08-30-2011, 03:54 PM
ArchmageFurly Wrote:I only now read through this thread.If you think it's defensive to point out that the information we're using is incorrect, then I don't know what to tell you.
Alyse, my post was not directed at you in particular, the fact that you thought it was reinforces the defensive attitude of most people in the raid.
I hate to say it, but I agree with Annysia for the most part. I don't think it's a good idea to try to pull a whole truth out of half-relevant information. Abe keeps saying to look at a set of data and to mentally separate what's worthwhile and what's not. I just don't see that as a good method for finding problems. Specifically, Survivability is just such a relative metric. So many things can throw it off or skew the numbers.
In this case, it would be more useful to determine what you died to instead of when you did it. The guy who died to lava spew 30 seconds in has just as much room for improvement as the guy who died to lava spew 30 seconds before we called a wipe. This is not to say that the "when" is not important. You obviously still need to filter out purposeful deaths to called wipes.
To be fair, I suppose Survivability could be one place to start the process. You could identify the small handful of people at the very very bottom as potential people to take a closer look at. But saying things like everyone should be above 95% is just not helpful. The variability in the reliability of this metric is definitely more than +/- 5%.