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mascaron Wrote:
Firecrest Wrote:Gov can't make you buy things. But they can fine tax you if you don't buy things. This is a completely logical system we have in place.
YA! Why haven't you been arguing against auto insurance requirements, FDA restaurant requirements, and vendor licenses? Oh wait, because ALL of those, including healthcare, do make complete, logical sense.
Then give the government the power to force purchases. I don't care about the healthcare thing one way or another and I’m not trying to say the government shouldn’t be able to do what they’re trying to do. My employer provides health insurance and I take advantage of it because it's the responsible thing to do and I’m well aware just how retarded the public at large is. We definitely need someone forcing people to make intelligent decisions when the unintelligent decisions (like running around without car insurance) hurt the rest of us.

What I’m saying is that the stupidity of disallowing the government to force purchases but allowing them to fine non-purchasers is just, well... stupid. It reeks of loophole and is not how our government should be run.

Lastly, though I agree with the base conclusion I believe you’re supporting, “because we've done it before" is never EVER a good argument for why we should continue something going forward. That aspect should be give due consideration, of course, but you should always judge something on its merit, not on its precedence.

jackslammer Wrote:Alyse you trolololololling?
No troll. The government's a fucking mess.

We like to claim to have the greatest government in the world, but we're resting on our laurels and have been for decades. Our government was great centuries ago when it got shit done and did real and lasting good for the people. All we've managed to do the last 50 years is take the great thing we were given and not fuck it up too bad. Our government today doesn't DO hardly anything. And partisanship, especially in the past decade or so, has gotten absolutely retarded. That one group of people hate an idea JUST BECAUSE another group of people like it is fucking idiotic.

It's like we were given a pristine vintage Rolls Royce and we took it, installed a second steering wheel, set the cruise control and promptly ran it off the road and into the brush time and time again - but it's okay cause we've not driven off a cliff yet.
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