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the last alpha I bought was fucking minecraft.... WHY WOULD I EVEN WASTE MY BREATHE?
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#2
I dont understand whats so bad about diablo 3 that there seems to be a dozen replacements every week
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D3 is a great game. It caught some early flack because it didn't have as seamless of a release as people expect from Blizzard. Then it became cool to bandwagon hate on it. Basically, people are idiot lemmings.

I've seen you on it a lot lately. Zig, Under, Paul (uh, I forget his WoW name... Swacked?) have been doing the occasional Ubers run and it's still great fun. Personally, I'm disappointed that they're getting rid of the GAH. The lemmings keep talking about how the personal trading they remember from D2 is gone in D3. Good riddance IMO. That shit was horrible. If you need a refresher course in just how big of a pain in the ass it was, go play PoE.

I just assume most of the people who compare D2 to D3 have no idea what they're talking about because they were 4 years old when D2 launched and are just parroting back things they think will make them look cool.

I'm cautiously looking forward to the expansion. Hopefully the feedback from all the haters hasn't ruined the game. If it sucks, I don't blame Blizzard.
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On a secondary rant, I'm sick of all the early release bullshit. "Early access" is just code for "shitty product you can't complain about because we put a beta label on it". Paying to be a beta tester is just stupid. It should be the other way around. Hell, most of the time it's not even beta testing. It's just incomplete product. Beta testing involves focusing on one particular section of the game at a time and providing specific instructions on what the testers should test and a clear path for them to report issues. 95% of the "early access" stuff on Steam has no testing direction. It's just, "Here's a game. It's not done yet, so don't complain when your saves all vanish or your account gets wiped. Give us money."
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Early access gets games made. Voting them onto steam via greenlight and then buying a partially finished game is a much better system than crowd funding where you see concept art and hope for a full game in 2 years.
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Valid point. I dunno. It feels like it makes for a poorer experience all around. Given the choice between fewer games of higher quality and a plethora of substandard product, I know which I would choose. If it were here and there, it wouldn't really be a big deal. But over the past couple years, the trend has become ridiculous. Pull up Steam on any given day and something to the tune of 70% of the featured games will be early access. It's crazy. Whatever happened to getting an investor, getting a loan or pitching your idea to an established company?

In the end, it doesn't seem like it's good for the games either. Look at PoE. Throughout the open beta, the fanboys used the beta crutch to bludgeon anyone who brought up a valid concern. Then the game officially released... to smaller numbers than the open beta peaks. Steam's promotion of it was the only reason why they have any current users at all. Everyone else had their fill during the beta and moved on. Meanwhile, people's memories are of desync plagues, glitches and a lousy end game. Maybe GGG fixed all of this and PoE is perfection incarnate. But it's too late. People have moved on and based their opinion on their beta experiences. Just how likely are they to come back to an expansion or another GGG product?
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Video games traditionally have had a short sales lifespan because they couldn't be vastly updated and had to be polished before entering the market. It was a shitty business model because companies had to spend years of development money before seeing any return on investment.

Nowadays with the amount of man hours required to make AAA games and even indie games, quality is getting expensive yet the sales window for finished products remains small. No one is buying Assassin's Creed 4 anymore, which was a pretty good AAA game by today's standards, and that came out less than three months ago. Ubisoft was selling it for 50% off for Christmas for fucks sake. The economy is shittier too unlike the golden days of the 90s, so good luck getting a bank or publisher to back an indie game especially if it's the dev team's first couple of games.

Furthermore, with the advent of increasing broadband speeds, it's now possible to update games online. The games don't need to be bug-free or even finished before selling them. Dead Rising 3 just put out a 13GB patch to fix all of its bugs. A patch that would take up two DVDs. Fucking seriously.

Steam gives indie devs a gradual cash flow during game development and that can allow them to finish games. Of course the game can be shit, but video games are a crapshoot in general. Big name publishers push out shitty games and sequels all the time. You're always welcome to ignore the early access games until they're finished, but if indie devs don't get support, they may not finish their products. I bought Natural Selection 2 almost 2 years before they released the retail version of it, and it was probably one of the best shooters of 2012. If their alpha sales were a couple thousand less, maybe they would have cut corners and made a worse game.

tl;dr: Stable cash flow > selling polished games

And regardless what czd thinks, PoE is a shitty D2 clone with a FFX skill tree. It's like I'm playing a game from 2004.
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I've been playing a shit ton of POE.
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Firecrest Wrote:D3 is a great game. It caught some early flack because it didn't have as seamless of a release as people expect from Blizzard. Then it became cool to bandwagon hate on it. Basically, people are idiot lemmings.

I've seen you on it a lot lately. Zig, Under, Paul (uh, I forget his WoW name... Swacked?) have been doing the occasional Ubers run and it's still great fun. Personally, I'm disappointed that they're getting rid of the GAH. The lemmings keep talking about how the personal trading they remember from D2 is gone in D3. Good riddance IMO. That shit was horrible. If you need a refresher course in just how big of a pain in the ass it was, go play PoE.

I just assume most of the people who compare D2 to D3 have no idea what they're talking about because they were 4 years old when D2 launched and are just parroting back things they think will make them look cool.

I'm cautiously looking forward to the expansion. Hopefully the feedback from all the haters hasn't ruined the game. If it sucks, I don't blame Blizzard.
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I agree, getting rid of the auction house is a fucking stupid idea, Jackie probably wont play if they do that because she depends on it to get better gear.

However, they did say loot drops were going to make more sense for the class you're playing. I hope thats true because I seriously dont want to farm years shit to get gear thats 'decent', I already have one thunderfury.
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Sanderz Wrote:Video games traditionally have had a short sales lifespan because they couldn't be vastly updated and had to be polished before entering the market. It was a shitty business model because companies had to spend years of development money before seeing any return on investment.
I dont think I agree with your sentiment.

I came from an era of video games ( and you to a latter extent ), when you had to use a ton of imagination to make the games fun. Games like Ninja Gaiden, Super Mario Brothers, Bubble Bobble, Tetris, Castlevania, Zelda, Contra, TMNT, Dragon Warrior, Final Fantasy, Metroid, Ghost n Goblins, punchout, the list could go on and on, I didn't even mention any Genesis games.

What I took from those NES and latter SNES titles, the graphics didnt make the game, the gameplay did. Back then, games were valued on their replayability. If a game was good, you could play it a thousand times over, now days its very rare that you pick the game up after you've beat it.

Thats not to say current games are bad, I quite enjoy them, but you'll never see me beat God of War more than once, GTA*, etc etc...

The reason why I think games suck now is because they are tailored made to not be replayable so you buy the next game that comes out in a few months. Games like COD, MW, Assassins Creed, and many others have replacements that come out just months apart from each other, which typically by then you've had your fill. I look at the yearly Sports games, UFC/WWE games, and think is there really that much new content? I just feels like a big scam/marketing gimmick.

But, that's just what I see.
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