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Old Raiding Bug is Old?
#1
So after reading "@ Rootbear" thread like 1034873 times, I finally realized that maybe I should do some research. Nothing in that post really gave me that idea, it was sort of a spark in my head, a hunch if you will.

Anyhoo, when inspecting shadow priests getting ~5k DPS on Patchwerk via WWS, I found some theories and probable answers as to how it was possible, and eventually I found this-

"The culprit is Master Poisoner, the Assassination rogue talent. It currently adds 3% crit for each stack of Deadly Poison, and Ominix's raid had two Mutilate rogues - therefore he received an additional 27% chance to crit due to that bug."

Apparently this bug is confirmed by many members of the WoW community so far as I could read. Since Shadow Priests gain a direct percentage based increase in DPS for each percentage of critical strike chance they have, their DPS simply skyrockets with an extra ~30% chance to crit. In one WWS I saw, the priest had an 80% chance to crit on all of his spells. When every tick of mind flay is hitting for 103% extra damage, every dot ticking for an extra 80% more damage...Spriest DPS turns into an absolute boon.

Beyond that, most of the shadow priests pulling these numbers are stacking 10-13% haste while only have ~15% crit rating. While I have virtually no haste, my crit rating through gear is 10-12% higher than theirs. HOWEVER, from WWS spreadsheets it lists their crit rate as actually HIGHER than mine. So not only are these priests casting much faster than me, but are also somehow critting much more often despite the lack of stats to back it up. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to realize that they would be dealing a LOT more damage than me.

So yeah, I found that incredibly interesting, and figured I should bring it to everyone's attention.
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#2
Oh BTW, WTS t6 pst.
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#3
im pretty sure this is a good ex. of people reading up and doing there "homework" on there class and how to find ways to improve them selves.


imo, good job sharf
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#4
It should also be noted that most of these priests are NOT using VE whatsoever. That means an extra GCD to DPS every 50 seconds or so. Now it's arguable that using VE on most fights isn't needed, I personally think that if I don't VE I don't have the right to SWBig Grin. If I can't self sustain my own self-induced damage then I shouldn't be there. Not the healer's job to top me off all the time.

Even beyond this, there is yet another bug with SWTongue that often keeps it from ticking as high as it could be. I knew this bug existed in 3.0 but I assumed it had been fixed, otherwise I would have changed my rotation. Essentially once SWTongue is applied, casting Mind Flay renews its duration. On a fight like Patchwerk there is no excuse for SWTongue to ever fall. However, each "renewal" of the dot uses the original application damage. Therein, if I cast it with no buffs, no crit bonuses, no shadow weaving, no trinkets, etc, it will always tick for that amount for the duration of the fight, regardless of what buffs or other modifiers I obtain during the fight. So in a nutshell, while we have talents that allow us to never cast Pain again, we should always be on the lookout for the time when all of our damage modifiers stack best, in order to ensure the highest yield possible from each tick.

The More You Know.
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#5
Sharf you're awesome Big Grin
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#6
As far as I know, our rogues aren't Mut yet due to not having daggers. I know I've talked about the crit bug around them, so I assume they know about it. Hope for better drop RNG so they can get daggers, go Mut, and give us Loatheb buff all the time.
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#7
as far as i know it was hotfixed the first week of december

the master poisoner bug
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