08-30-2011, 11:14 AM
I only now read through this thread.
Alyse, my post was not directed at you in particular, the fact that you thought it was reinforces the defensive attitude of most people in the raid.
My point in a nutshell. Abe is posting these numbers not to force anyone to comment them, but for the people who may want to look through them and see if there is something they can change. If he posted the wrong numbers, by all means give him the correct ones. But the person I'm addressing is Annysia. If you think you can't learn anything when something is posted such as damage taken etc, feel free to ignore it. It's being posted for people who care to look through them to see if there's anything they can improve upon. everyone is aware that the numbers aren't perfect and things skew them, and I'm sure the people who care to learn from them take that into consideration.
In short, and I'm guilty of this too, we argue just for the sake of an argument. Our long discussion about Snowz and interupts on left side. Turns out he was lagging slightly and simply MISSING his interrupt. But rather than simply accepting that we had to turn it into a huge debate. At least Snowz had the decency to just send me a tell and say "hey, maybe I'm just missing them and we're making too much of this". And guess what, he realized he made a mistake, adjusted, and we killed it. All of us need to follow that example. If you know you made a mistake, say it rather than letting the raid try and reinvent the wheel after every wipe.
Alyse, my post was not directed at you in particular, the fact that you thought it was reinforces the defensive attitude of most people in the raid.
My point in a nutshell. Abe is posting these numbers not to force anyone to comment them, but for the people who may want to look through them and see if there is something they can change. If he posted the wrong numbers, by all means give him the correct ones. But the person I'm addressing is Annysia. If you think you can't learn anything when something is posted such as damage taken etc, feel free to ignore it. It's being posted for people who care to look through them to see if there's anything they can improve upon. everyone is aware that the numbers aren't perfect and things skew them, and I'm sure the people who care to learn from them take that into consideration.
In short, and I'm guilty of this too, we argue just for the sake of an argument. Our long discussion about Snowz and interupts on left side. Turns out he was lagging slightly and simply MISSING his interrupt. But rather than simply accepting that we had to turn it into a huge debate. At least Snowz had the decency to just send me a tell and say "hey, maybe I'm just missing them and we're making too much of this". And guess what, he realized he made a mistake, adjusted, and we killed it. All of us need to follow that example. If you know you made a mistake, say it rather than letting the raid try and reinvent the wheel after every wipe.