Diagoras - Hunter

[Firecrest]

Well, this is the one point I had to address. Obvious lack of core knowledge is not something you can determine just by looking at my armory gear. I keep up to date on information about my class (even when my account wasn't active) and change my loadout. Like I said, if I'm not actively raiding I'm not going to be worried about reforging the second I get a piece of new gear. I may not be very experienced in Cataclysm raiding, but I did raid all through WotLK after being a BC baby. I may be beyond your HM alt runs, but if there's nothing you're willing to do to trial new potential raiders then there's nothing I can do. Apologies for not being able to raid with a serious guild the moment I hit 85.

Yeah, but here's the thing. This isn't the moment you hit 85 or the moment after you got a new piece of gear. It's the moment you applied to a serious raiding guild. I made the analogy before and it still holds true. You showed up to this interview in jeans and a t-shirt. As an employer, what else am I to assume other than that you're an undependable hippie? Sure, you may not be a hippie. You may take the job very seriously and be the best employee I've ever had. But guess what? I have to use what I've got and you obviously don't care enough about your interview to put on a suit and tie. So I have to assume that's the same kind of dedication you'd give the job.

In this case, our job description clearly states:
It is required you use the best gems and get the best enchants on your gear; endgame raiders should not have any cheap gems, cheap or no enchants, and/or incorrect stats for your class. In addition you must have two raiding professions leveled high enough for their maximum benefits.
Yet you didn't meet these requirements. So I can make two assumptions. Either 1) you don't really care about getting the spot, won't try if you get there and will probably flake out after a couple months or 2) you think your armory is in a good place when it's really not and are therefore a bad player who doesn't know his class.

Which of these should make me excited to bring you on board?

Since the sarcasm in my last post may not have been clear, let me be more specific. While a lack of experience is kinda lame, I don't particularly care too much at this point. If we had new recruits applying left and right and could afford to be choosy, then sure. We'd ask for at least 12/12. But Scilla and our guild are in a weird place right now and I don't mind trying to find the "diamond in the rough". Hell, like Cahn said above, that was me. When I came to WLPH, I lacked experience raiding. It was not that I hadn't killed some number of bosses, I'd been raiding (with a shitty, unprogressed guild) for like a whopping grand total of 2 months before I joined. However, I still knew my class. I stood in fire and didn't throw the core, but I wasn't stacking Spirit and I knew what buttons to press when.

So, trust me when I say that lack of experience is something we can fix. Teaching you how to play your class (or bringing on an undedicated player) is not something I'm willing to work with. I liked your attitude and told you that we could use our alt run to teach you to play or that you could fix your issues and come back to get a spot in our main run. Both those offers still stand. If you choose not to take them, that's up to you.

[mascaron]

adding clauses like these would be helpful if we ever end up putting a "what we expect from you" post in here alongside the application form.

You need not include these questions in your application, but if you cannot answer "yes" to the following questions you may wish to reconsider submitting an application. These expectations should be a given for all raiders, and if you cannot reply with a "yes" to all of them, (or at least provide an excellent reason for your "no") you will likely not be considered for a trial. To put it plainly, these things are the bare minimum, and realistically these questions shouldn't even need to be asked.

Pre-application Checklist:

1. Are you properly gemmed? - This is one of the first things we look at, and if you do it poorly your chances of getting a trial are nonexistent.

2. Do you have 2 raid professions? - If you have a gathering profession, you should level something useful before you submit an application, assuming you want us to take you seriously.

3. Do you have maxed reputations applicable to your class? - If you aren't exalted with Therazane (or have inscription), or the reputation required for your classes helm enchant, you should complete these before applying.

4. Is your spec well-researched, does it reflect a good knowledge of your class, and does it make sense for your role in a PvE raid?

5. Do you have appropriate raid experience for our progression level? (If you don't, you'll want to provide good reasons why you don't, and why you think we should consider you anyway).

6. If you are asked questions about your spec/gemming/enchanting choices and/or have additional information requested about your raid experience, will you be able to answer?

Perfect play is often nearly impossible. However, we expect you to be maximizing your performance in every possible way. That means bringing consumables, knowing what's going on and how to avoid it, maximizing your DPS/Healing, and generally bringing your A Game. It's okay to fuck up once or twice, but admit that you fucked up, maybe mention to an officer the reasoning behind it, and don't let it happen again.

You need to be able to shrug off being told that you fucking suck. If you can't deal with what is at times a high stress environment, then you may need to consider going elsewhere because you will only find that you are unhappy later

[lawlerbation the hardcore squatter]

Perfect play is often nearly impossible.

o you.. being numba one means im perfect

Teaching you how to play your class (or bringing on an undedicated player) is not something I'm willing to work with.

honestly.. hunters are fucking easy, if this guy wants ill go over some timing of cooldown shit for every fight and then try to explain and show the best places for movement and when.

all of you queers crying about not wanting to teach people "the class" are retarded. None of the dps classes require much in terms of skill. Healers require synergy with other faggy skirt wearing healers but dps are SHITEASY.

I dont really want this guy any more just because he cant read sarcasm. But whutevz id take him under my meaty female dwarf wing you know.

[Thorran]

YEAH SCARED ANOTHER ONE AWAY LETS GO 20 PEOPLE ON SUNDAY

[jackslammer]

Hey guys just call me and I'll log on when we have 24 people in full 372 ready to pull and flawlessly clear 13/13 heroic, if we don't then fuck it, call it, let's go bowling.

[Crazy Diana]

ill do anything for ambien

[jackslammer]

ill do anything for ambien

I switched to Lunesta and have a sleep log and sleep disorder specialist now, thanks.

[Crazy Diana]

ill do anything for that wonderful taste in my mouth

[jackslammer]

ill do anything for that wonderful taste in my mouth

suck off the tin man?

[Crazy Diana]

i was referring to a side effect of lunesta but sure